tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19149945.post6957526565628036720..comments2023-07-04T03:14:07.334-06:00Comments on BlogFranz: I don't get e-learning 2.0Matt Franzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00973881935128108475noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19149945.post-49189016277055915892008-11-10T10:06:00.000-06:002008-11-10T10:06:00.000-06:00It's true that collaboration and networking existe...It's true that collaboration and networking existed before the computer era, but your channels and your opportunities were in general far more restricted -- by geography, by cost (remember long-distance charges), by the odds against meeting up with someone in order to begin the networked relationship.<BR/><BR/>I recently came across a quote attributed to Kent W. Seibert: Reject the myth that we learn from experience, and accept the reality that we learn by reflecting on experience.<BR/><BR/>Learning strictly from experience is not far from operant conditioning; it's a slow process. <BR/><BR/>Reflection makes the process more active, more deliberate; it's still slow, and sometimes uncomfortable as we try to make sense of what we've experienced. <BR/><BR/>The broad label of "web 2.0" includes the ability to contribute, rather than simply consume. To say "the only difference" is that you can contribute is like saying the only difference between a AAA TripTik and Google maps is that Google lets you use a mouse.<BR/><BR/>The usenet comparison isn't bad, except that usenet was (relatively speaking) a small and specialized community. The steep learning curve was far more daunting than the one a newcomer has to deal with in order to comment on a blog or edit a corporate or educational wiki.<BR/><BR/>Don't the the "2.0" stuff put you off (I've already seen "3.0" hats being hosted on sticks by some hyper-early adopters). <BR/><BR/>The real secret is that learning isn't something that organizations do to individuals. It's something individuals do. Organizations can foster learning, tools can assist it. And some tools are better than others: you could shovel your walk with a pancake turner, and you could stir the pancake batter with a wood chisel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19149945.post-51951105013943656612008-10-02T07:26:00.000-06:002008-10-02T07:26:00.000-06:00Thanks. And something I forget to mention , realis...Thanks. And something I forget to mention , realistically there is not that much difference between USENET groups from the 80s and 90s and blogs. Users post articles and other respond to them. The real only difference that instead of using NNTP you are using HTTP and a different applications is being used to access the data. Same sort of collaboration and communication.Matt Franzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00973881935128108475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19149945.post-34277011950558831252008-10-02T07:07:00.000-06:002008-10-02T07:07:00.000-06:00Matt,I kind of agree with you, Web 2.0 tools are n...Matt,<BR/><BR/>I kind of agree with you, Web 2.0 tools are nothing more than tools. I can learn as much from a magazine article or a static web page than from a blog or a wiki. The only difference is that one allows me to contribute while the other does not.<BR/><BR/>If we want to tag Web 2.0 tools as learning tools, we should also put the water cooler, the coffee machine, the telephone and others as learning tools because they can also be used to share knowledge (well you do not share it throug the water cooler, but around it).<BR/><BR/>My point is that we learn all the time in everything we do. If you take a culinary course, you'll use all kind of tools to learn how to cook: spoons, skillets, bowls, etc. Does that make them learning tools? No, they are cooking tools used in a learning environment.<BR/><BR/>The only new thing with learning 2.0 is the tools. Collaboration and networking existed way before the computer era.Guy Boulethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08024906671026902073noreply@blogger.com